Comments on: Irrational publishing and recursive publics http://library.duke.edu/blogs/scholcomm/2008/07/31/irrational-publishing-and-recursive-publics/ Duke's source for advice and information about copyright and publication issues Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:32:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Cat in the 'Stack http://library.duke.edu/blogs/scholcomm/2008/07/31/irrational-publishing-and-recursive-publics/comment-page-1/#comment-146491 Cat in the 'Stack Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:18:58 +0000 http://library.duke.edu/blogs/scholcomm/?p=801#comment-146491 Thanks for this great post. As a shameless plug, I should mention that HASTAC helped make the economics of this deal work by helping to subsidize hidden costs of online publishing, such as lost revenue from folks buying the book, different modes of advertising, and so forth. You can also get to the book or Chris's online site from HASTAC's homepage: www.hastac.org. I'm a huge fan of Da's book (am writing another one myself---more shameless plugging---about how we come to be predictably irrational in the first place, more the cognitive cultural neuroanthro side of this) and totally believe that scholars miss the boat when they don't understand the economics of what they do. Not paying attention to the economics of the economic is, well, so predictably irrational. There, that's my two bits on the matter! Thanks so much for this great post. Best, Cat Thanks for this great post. As a shameless plug, I should mention that HASTAC helped make the economics of this deal work by helping to subsidize hidden costs of online publishing, such as lost revenue from folks buying the book, different modes of advertising, and so forth. You can also get to the book or Chris’s online site from HASTAC’s homepage: http://www.hastac.org. I’m a huge fan of Da’s book (am writing another one myself—more shameless plugging—about how we come to be predictably irrational in the first place, more the cognitive cultural neuroanthro side of this) and totally believe that scholars miss the boat when they don’t understand the economics of what they do. Not paying attention to the economics of the economic is, well, so predictably irrational. There, that’s my two bits on the matter! Thanks so much for this great post. Best, Cat

]]> By: dan ariely http://library.duke.edu/blogs/scholcomm/2008/07/31/irrational-publishing-and-recursive-publics/comment-page-1/#comment-146311 dan ariely Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:37:27 +0000 http://library.duke.edu/blogs/scholcomm/?p=801#comment-146311 Hey -- who was an " obscure academic author "? Thanks for the posting -- I just ordered Kelty's book Irrationally yours Da Hey — who was an ” obscure academic author “?

Thanks for the posting — I just ordered Kelty’s book

Irrationally yours

Da

]]> By: Christopher Kelty http://library.duke.edu/blogs/scholcomm/2008/07/31/irrational-publishing-and-recursive-publics/comment-page-1/#comment-146201 Christopher Kelty Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:42:02 +0000 http://library.duke.edu/blogs/scholcomm/?p=801#comment-146201 thanks for the plug... and I too hope that the experiment succeeds. It's great that you draw attention to the simultaneously economic and scholarly issues here, since most people tend to focus on one or the other and it is really only people like Ariely or myself who might experience both--people who have both been through the publishing experience and seen what new forms of scholarly communication are doing to our scholarship. It's not easy though-- and the biggest hurdle is convincing scholars themselves to take a more experimental approach. I think the publishers are slowly getting out in front of the scholars in some areas, and are willing to try more radical things than some scholars might be. But we'll see, it's a huge change for the "infrastructure of science" (see chapters 8 and 9 :) ) thanks for the plug… and I too hope that the experiment succeeds. It’s great that you draw attention to the simultaneously economic and scholarly issues here, since most people tend to focus on one or the other and it is really only people like Ariely or myself who might experience both–people who have both been through the publishing experience and seen what new forms of scholarly communication are doing to our scholarship. It’s not easy though– and the biggest hurdle is convincing scholars themselves to take a more experimental approach. I think the publishers are slowly getting out in front of the scholars in some areas, and are willing to try more radical things than some scholars might be. But we’ll see, it’s a huge change for the “infrastructure of science” (see chapters 8 and 9 :) )

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