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DAR II (Dyke for the Second American Revolution)

Minutes from February 23, 1975
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/aim for 10.00

Sunday -- Feb. 23 -- present Jeanne/Jane/ Mickey/ Sarah/ Margo/ Peachy/ Lorraine/ Wu[?]/ Fanny[?]/ Sandybayer.

Donna went to get Margo.

Lorraine called ALFA

Peachy called Martha and learned she was not coming

Agenda

Margo -- passed out articles -- Lorraine also.

Donna announced

  1. TV specail -- on gayness -- 1130 Thus.
  2. International Woman's Day -- Wants Women's songs.

Brigade Announce.  Veniseramos Brig. begins again.  Bill Cutlen wants support -- and is good because they previously discriminated agains queers.

Lorraine -- read letter to Comm. agnst rascism --

Bayou Landing -- Al Horn contacted -- names & witnesses -- we have those now. 1 woman is missing.

Sub comm. to meet w/ woman about actions.  Lorraine/Peachy/Jeanne/Sally possibly & Jane.

Visit to RU.  Lorraine, Linda, Martha went to RU to see Gegies contact from UUAW.

Discussion w/ husband & wife -- talked about position paper -- papers on "homosexuals in rel to communists"  but they say they support oppressed peoples.  

Peachy -- they do not support groups but

comm.       self sacrificing-self

fighters fro working class.  queers spend too much time w/ personal relationships.  but they accept that queers can be anti imperialist.  

Do they not spend time on pers. rels. -- Agreed on roles & defs.  If many [?] gay women find relating to women easier & less hassles thant [sic] [?- symbol]

Homosexuality result of capitalist system -- saw males as same as dykes -- and that they are victims of the same oppression.

Peachy -- why could he understand lesbians but not men?

Lorraine -- lesbian[ism?] proven that its nat./healthier than hertero sex -- no role playing -- would people not be hetero/hom. if in different society

Peachy -- lesbian because of pos. rein. for aggressive reaction to things -- learned was good to be strong -- that most are being soc/w/.

Lesbian[ism?] -- indiv. response to oppression.  do not see as political thing.  dont see gay oppression as important.  Homosexuality unnatrual -- decadant -- (immoral -- result of crumbling[?] system -- people different than animals -- people can say what is good & bad.

RU -- heterosexuality for reproduction -- ignored data on other kinds of animals -- fucking sometimes produces babies.  oral genital sex -- she thought that was unnatrual too.  he said it was real nice talking to them and we should talk to ex gays -- Lorraine HAS

Peachy -- RU says family is vital -- to help put people in their places.

these people had quit OL.

Peachy -- what about RU attracts them to group?  position on women and rels. w/ men -- attractive to lesb. who isn't quite comfortable w/ lesbianism.

Mickey -- position papers.  pre party formation.  hard lines.  they don't see women's moving in such strong direction.  women don't have unified politics.

Peachy -- straight feminist it is ideal place to be.

LF -- trying to organize unemployed workers.

MA. lesbians reacting from middle class guilt.

LF -- will talk again in future -- follow up?

FP -- position on lesbian [symbol?] family heterosexuality

FP -- develop strategys.  try to anticipate what they would say.

LF he was telling us -- not listning to us-- talking down.

Margo -- no energy for struggling w/ them.  they won't change unless we infiltrate

Peachy -- if we are group -- can we go into coalition w/ them

Donna -- interesting to talk w/ others from RU -- especially women -- and women who have rejected gay.

MA -- no energy for debate w/ RU  agreed w/ Margo  wants to work w/ groups formed out of oppression -- rather than sectarian  doesn't trust sectarian motives.

Mickey -- sectarian -- theory sect. part of whole -- (church -- Christain relig) oppressed gr. -- issue.  more action oriented -- this gr. formed out of common oppression.

Peach -- on future meetings -- practice on how to deal w/ sectarian grs. as good.

LF -- suggestions for what to do.

Jane -- Bayou Landing --

LF Do we wait for incident to happen.

Margo -- Peachy -- Mickey into soc. feminism.  women's school.  Women's socialist group.  because feminists have no place to turn to except to male left grs.

Peachy -- Women in Contemporary Society gave explanation    possibility for action.

Criticism.

1. did people get crowded out.  Sandy -- didn't feel she could offer to RU disc. since she

Jeanne -- personnally upset -- it that something that should keep one from coming to group -- group gave her something & felt better by end of meeting.

Mickey -- wasn't sure about RU disc. and was confused -- felt like nerd for saying that ---

Some one whould clarify disc. -- group crit. for not doing so.

we will strive to make ourselves more aware.

Next meeting -- Mar 9 at 8:00 not 7:30  449 Euclid Terrace.

agenda -- Lesbian Feminism -- for next week.

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