Documents from the Women's Liberation Movement
An On-line Archival Collection
Special Collections Library, Duke University
Minutes from February 23, 1975
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/aim for 10.00
Sunday -- Feb. 23 -- present Jeanne/Jane/ Mickey/ Sarah/ Margo/ Peachy/ Lorraine/ Wu[?]/ Fanny[?]/ Sandybayer.
Donna went to get Margo.
Lorraine called ALFA
Peachy called Martha and learned she was not coming
Margo -- passed out articles -- Lorraine also.
Brigade Announce. Veniseramos Brig. begins again. Bill Cutlen wants support -- and is good because they previously discriminated agains queers.
Lorraine -- read letter to Comm. agnst rascism --
Bayou Landing -- Al Horn contacted -- names & witnesses -- we have those now. 1 woman is missing.
Sub comm. to meet w/ woman about actions. Lorraine/Peachy/Jeanne/Sally possibly & Jane.
Visit to RU. Lorraine, Linda, Martha went to RU to see Gegies contact from UUAW.
Discussion w/ husband & wife -- talked about position paper -- papers on "homosexuals in rel to communists" but they say they support oppressed peoples.
Peachy -- they do not support groups but
comm. self sacrificing-self
fighters fro working class. queers spend too much time w/ personal relationships. but they accept that queers can be anti imperialist.
Do they not spend time on pers. rels. -- Agreed on roles & defs. If many [?] gay women find relating to women easier & less hassles thant [sic] [?- symbol]
Homosexuality result of capitalist system -- saw males as same as dykes -- and that they are victims of the same oppression.
Peachy -- why could he understand lesbians but not men?
Lorraine -- lesbian[ism?] proven that its nat./healthier than hertero sex -- no role playing -- would people not be hetero/hom. if in different society
Peachy -- lesbian because of pos. rein. for aggressive reaction to things -- learned was good to be strong -- that most are being soc/w/.
Lesbian[ism?] -- indiv. response to oppression. do not see as political thing. dont see gay oppression as important. Homosexuality unnatrual -- decadant -- (immoral -- result of crumbling[?] system -- people different than animals -- people can say what is good & bad.
RU -- heterosexuality for reproduction -- ignored data on other kinds of animals -- fucking sometimes produces babies. oral genital sex -- she thought that was unnatrual too. he said it was real nice talking to them and we should talk to ex gays -- Lorraine HAS
Peachy -- RU says family is vital -- to help put people in their places.
these people had quit OL.
Peachy -- what about RU attracts them to group? position on women and rels. w/ men -- attractive to lesb. who isn't quite comfortable w/ lesbianism.
Mickey -- position papers. pre party formation. hard lines. they don't see women's moving in such strong direction. women don't have unified politics.
Peachy -- straight feminist it is ideal place to be.
LF -- trying to organize unemployed workers.
MA. lesbians reacting from middle class guilt.
LF -- will talk again in future -- follow up?
FP -- position on lesbian [symbol?] family heterosexuality
FP -- develop strategys. try to anticipate what they would say.
LF he was telling us -- not listning to us-- talking down.
Margo -- no energy for struggling w/ them. they won't change unless we infiltrate
Peachy -- if we are group -- can we go into coalition w/ them
Donna -- interesting to talk w/ others from RU -- especially women -- and women who have rejected gay.
MA -- no energy for debate w/ RU agreed w/ Margo wants to work w/ groups formed out of oppression -- rather than sectarian doesn't trust sectarian motives.
Mickey -- sectarian -- theory sect. part of whole -- (church -- Christain relig) oppressed gr. -- issue. more action oriented -- this gr. formed out of common oppression.
Peach -- on future meetings -- practice on how to deal w/ sectarian grs. as good.
LF -- suggestions for what to do.
Jane -- Bayou Landing --
LF Do we wait for incident to happen.
Margo -- Peachy -- Mickey into soc. feminism. women's school. Women's socialist group. because feminists have no place to turn to except to male left grs.
Peachy -- Women in Contemporary Society gave explanation possibility for action.
1. did people get crowded out. Sandy -- didn't feel she could offer to RU disc. since she
Jeanne -- personnally upset -- it that something that should keep one from coming to group -- group gave her something & felt better by end of meeting.
Mickey -- wasn't sure about RU disc. and was confused -- felt like nerd for saying that ---
Some one whould clarify disc. -- group crit. for not doing so.
we will strive to make ourselves more aware.
Next meeting -- Mar 9 at 8:00 not 7:30 449 Euclid Terrace.
agenda -- Lesbian Feminism -- for next week.
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